Most noobs that train to fly a battleship in two days aren't going to be able to afford them.

I Am NOT A FAN of this Re-Mapping... For me It Seems CCP is Making it EASIER for NEW players and HARDER for older players... for me being an older player it is un-fair and ultimatly could drive me away from the game...

Why not simply remove ALL pre-requisites?
If someone wants to fly a Titan, and they have the money, let them be in a Titan with a day's training.

So new players can buy a plex, and in a matter of 3-4 days, be climbing into a BS hull.
Brilliant, just brilliant.

I hate the sound of the changes. I'm bitter about training choices not meaning as much. Everyone else seems to like them so whatever.

And for sake of justice never forget that hull skills are only the small part of skills one have to train to operate ship properly. One will have to invest a lot into core/gunnery skills before he will be actually capable of using larger hull sizes properly.

It's not stupid, it's actually part of the Tiericide initiative. A tech1 ship shouldn't require the corresponding skill at 5 to fly. There also shouldn't be such thing as "the best tech1 industrial".

While getting new players in remains a noble side-goal, the main reason this is being done is to give each and every single ship with a proper role, not to leave them as crappy transition steps. Transition steps don't work in sandbox MMOs.

Every time they simplify the game a little - there is a lot of difficulties still left... until it's not. A bittervet can remember learning skills, no warp-to-zero, old-school probing, and all that things that I have no idea of.

Clone costs in their current form are not something we as a design department are happy with. Beyond that we can't make commitments on the issue at this time.

Clone costs in their current form are not something we as a design department are happy with. Beyond that we can't make commitments on the issue at this time.

For a dedicated carrier alt Battleship is nothing more than a timesink. Timesink that you decided to remove. In other words you are taking one and half months of subscription time.

Would love to see a Phoenix buff, so it can at least hit a damn target going over 3 m/s, making it actually useful other than station bashing.

But I really want to see correctly streamlined skilltrees. So please also change that for the Jumpfreighters.

I suppose at some point someone was sick about the crappy thing the skill tree evolved to and decided to do something about it.
It's called 'professional pride'. Might be a new concept to some.

Might be another someone. They're a small company but not THAT small.
Also the skill change strikes me as a thing that is harder to communicate than to actually fix.

The capital portion of the skill tree is probably unsalvageable. It's supposedly a T1 series of ships but requires a number of nested prerequisites to ensure basic functionality of the ships in their roles, which is a T2 ship attribute. T1 subcap ships don't have this and so long as it remains there will be no true "fixing" of the cap trees. since it's so special cased anyways why bother with it?

I wouldn't have done it like that, but I can hardly say it's nonsense, since there are valid reasons to change the capital requirements as they did by defining a primary intended purpose and changing requirements accordingly.

They're free to define it that way, even if personally i'd linearize it too.
I.e. I would prefer if the skilltree were to continue into ..->(racial) capital -> (racial) supercapital with carrier/dread and MS/titan just being T1 variants just like domi/megathron are variants of gallente BS.

What of those like me, who has BC lvl 5 (or almost though), but dont wanna have say Caldari BC lvl 5. Shouldnt we have a chance to choose what ships we wanna skill for and get an reimbursment for those we dont?